A Family Member Who Is Willing To Betray You In 24 Minutes Of Being Programmed
After some idiot in my family fell to some telephone scam, someone pretending to be from the government, I learned a lot in a lifetime of knowing this person.
The scammer told them they could not talk to anyone about the situation or that they could be arrested and then this person decided to tell me briefly about what happened but claimed to be unable to go into details.
All it took was a 24 minute phone call scam to completely indoctrinate the person to betray me, and this is exactly why I don't believe in family.
Family is a great big scam.
They say blood is thicker than water but this person was willing to lie and hide information from me to placate a scammer pretending to be the government, and even went as far as trying to paint themselves towards me as possibly being involved in a life of suspicious activities all based on a scam phone call.
I don't believe anyone should ever trust their families, and I definitely did not even from an early age.
So this person basically has shown me they would betray me for the sake of the government.
The better elements of my family are long deceased. Everyone alive today is trash.
It's amazing how much these people have lost their minds.
Sorry you had to go through this.
ReplyDeleteMy experience has been that family will be more likely to screw you than non family because they are more certain that nobody will call them out in their BS.
I had a family member gaslight me hard when I caught her in a lie.
Haven't talked to her in 14 years, and never will.
Yes, most of these ideas of family have just come with religion anyway. Yes, due to religious reasons when people would follow a religion, family indeed would have been very important and “blood being thicker than water” would be true, but not so much anymore because why does it matter? Even if you have the same blood, you can be completely different and besides, treating someone differently because they are family is stupid anyway, especially since this can apply to in-laws too even though you don’t have blood relations with them
ReplyDeleteI paid attention more, and I realized it's true: women do stick togehter and bond with each other much more and have more social life with each other than men do with each other; they also enjoy life much more etc. Men act very self-destructive in a way, weakening themselves. I never paid attention to this.
ReplyDelete@Eike it really is a depressing realisation. I always see women laughing, smiling, and always being positive about life. Why wouldn’t they be positive? As life is very easy for them and their problems get solved by simps. They have very little worries in life and that is why they thrive.
DeleteMeanwhile I don’t often see men having a good time. Only on a Friday night after some alcohol drowns out a hard week of work and life problems which no one is coming to solve. Also socially, women get a better reception than men do, and men have to prove theirselves to be worthy of social bonds. Women just have to exist and the attention and conversations are brought to them.
@Kyle part 1 The whole idea of "deserving" needs to be changed. The entire system we identify things in is called "existence" or "reality". If there were anything outside reality on which reality were in any way dependent – e.g., for origination, causation, support, maintenance, or anything else - thenthe entire dependency relationship would be real and therefore inside reality. Itfollows that reality is self-contained with respect to physical and metaphysical functions like origination, causation, support, maintenance, etc. https://cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/view/740/1214 It follows that reality must make and realize its own “choice to exist”; by reason of its absolute priority, this act of choice is identical to that which is chosen, i.e. the universe itself, and thus reflexive. I.e., “existence is everywhere the choice to exist.” Reality must internally distinguish that which it is from that which it is not, and passivity is ruled out
Deletebecause it would again imply the involvement of a complementary active principle of external origin. http://infolab.ho.ua/Langan_CTMU_092902(1).pdf Now, reality needs to generate an intrinsic self-selection criterion in order to do this. Since utility is the name already given to the attribute which is maximized by any rational choice function, and since a totally self-actualizing system has the privilege of defining its own standard of rationality, we may as well speak of this self-selection criterion in terms of
global or generic self-utility. That is, reality must generate and retrieve information on the intrinsic utility content of various possible forms that it might take. Utility is simply a generic selection criterion essential to the only cosmologically acceptable form of causality, namely self-determinism. Reality is is both that which selects and that which is selected. [Uncommon Dissent: Intellectuals Who Find Darwinism Unconvincing, 2004] Subsystems of reality are embedded in this situation. Localized telic subsystems mirror the overall system in seeking to maximize (local) utility. For this, we're given perceptual qualia in terms of which we define and extract experience, meaning and utility from perceptual and cognitive reality, and we are given feelings and emotions integral to the determination of utility for qualic relationships. http://infolab.ho.ua/Langan_CTMU_092902(1).pdf So we're given all kinds of different needs; they are just there. We have to recognize them (often buried), and then we have to see how we can satisfy them. That's how we use our free will we're given from this self-determined system we exist in.
@Kyle part 2 So the only question is whether it is in line with the overall system ("moral") to satisfy a given need in a particular way. The elite, for example, satisfy their needs in the wrong way: Happiness is a little like a drug; one can almost think of it in terms of saturated receptors. Too much of it produces "tolerance", so that one simply acclimates to it and eventually feels nothing. The same applies to the things that produce happiness, e.g., material wealth; that's why the monetary elite need more and more and...and more to be satisfied with their personal "economic growth". It rapidly becomes a psycho-social pathology. The world is now in its grip, being run by pampered, filthy-rich, financially desensitized slugs in rosy bubbles of privilege who need to squeeze harder and harder and harder to feel a thing. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ctmurealitytheory/posts/10159501138852486 The world - its real, material property - must be reclaimed from the parasites and reopened to those who deserve to survive. All those big corporations, the manufacturing, the mines and the company farms, the infrastructure, the food processing plants (which have already slowed to a crawl), the governments - one can't "own" the very necessities of life, let alone the entire planet, just for being a sybaritic money-shuffling turd whose great great grandaddy ripped off a chunk by usury or the sword and became a "stakeholder" sitting on a pile of "shares". You only own what your actual merit, and your ability to recognize and reward merit in others, can justify.
DeleteThe elite have now stupidly shown that they don't really have any merit and do not recognize merit in others, and "no merit" means "no right of complete ownership". A society in which wealth and power have become finally and permanently detached from merit, virtue, and truth is doomed. https://www.facebook.com/groups/HighIQ4Trump/posts/545998883337422/ As human utility becomes increasingly concentrated, every significant increase in the wealth of the overclass translates into a greater amount of misery for the underclass, arbitrarily diminishing the net utility of mankind. https://cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/view/694/1157 That's how the elite don't deserve to satisfy a need. But why would a man (a human telic subsystem) not deserve to satisfy his social needs?
Family exists on a mutual basis of survival. Even Goatis has said in one of his videos that family members are the closest thing to having a "real friend", which means they aren't real friends. The family member that betrayed you has basically been "won over" by the system. You can't trust anyone these days.
ReplyDelete@John Eston,
DeleteYep, exactly... That was one of the best videos Goatis ever published.
And actually more and more people lately are discussing how you cannot trust family on any level. I've always believed the same anyways.
The crazy part is that I've had closer "relationships" than other friends compared to most of my family.
And the reason for that is because the odds / probabilities of being born and growing up in a family that even remotely shares your interests, hobbies and so happens to enjoy your company, is probably very slim, compared to the actual odds of finding or connecting with some individual who does have the same interests and hobbies.
From what I've observed even in my own family, people only get together for the sake of tradition / holidays / weddings and funerals, and the moment everyone sees each other, it becomes a race to see who can make up the quickest excuse to "leave" right after dinner.
@PSA another issue with family is they don’t always share your worldview or see where you are coming from. Whereas friends will tend to be similar to you. I feel like family tries to change you as a person too much, whereas friends are more accepting or even like the authentic version of you. I am always myself around people and my family are the ones who give me stick for my life choices, meanwhile my friends are accepting and have a polite disagreement if an opinion I hold isn’t for them. Family have always accused my opinion of being incorrect and that I needto change.
DeleteQuite honestly Kyle, friends are just as worse.
DeleteBeing from an honest, hard working Italian family, my parents and uncles would always mock the idea of Friends.
It would be a big running joke not to trust "friends".
Then again, my family HAD a lot of class back then. The new generation of my family is still good, but they are nothing like my family members born pre 1950. It was all about honor back then. Never embarrass your family, and always be ready to give the shirt off your back to help family. And it was always family over friends by about 10,000 X.
The key issue is that the quality of human beings is not that great atm. I get along with my parents and my sister even though there are serious differences between us. My sister is very well-behaved, intelligent and diplomatic (she is also good-looking and earns a lot of money), and we get along very well even though I live a completely different life.
DeleteAnother thing I have noticed about family is that they have "inside" information on you. So, they will try to expose your weakness because they actually know your weakness.
ReplyDeleteThey also know your strengths, and will use you for that. I have an uncle for example, who is known in our town/city as a handyman type that can fix anything. He does it all, from computers, to appliances, to cars. Just a very smart man. And he always gets calls to do stuff.
That is family for you.
I haven't spoken to a relative for about two decades because they kept talking badly behind my back and making up things that weren't true. Many relatives tell me I should forgive and all the Christian garbage, but the reality is that I don't accept betrayal and even if I could, I would eliminate it without remorse.
ReplyDeleteRecently, I was arguing with a fanatic Christian. I know it's useless with these people, but sometimes I like to see how they say stupid things without realizing it. Well, she told me that although she had never seen Jesus to believe in him, the Bible said: "Blessed are those who believe in me without having to see me." With that argument, she was telling me that one should feel it and all the other nonsense. I just thought that this delusional woman doesn't realize that this is the same as if I believed in a fantasy book. Of course, she told me that many people didn't accept Jesus, that's why they couldn't see him. It's funny to me how these people always need to call those who don't believe in their delusions ignorant.