Hypervitaminosis "IS" a real thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDKjw6Xb3W4
I don't typically do video reviews on the topics Goatis posts relating to Meat-eating topics, but on this one I actually had to come out to say that there are definitely some things on this that I don't agree with whatsoever.
Realistically speaking, if someone wants to eat liver, especially Beef liver on a regular basis, even two meals per week would typically be more than suffice for meeting most people's nutritional needs.
If someone were a former "vegan" and their nutrition stores were depleted, then that might be a whole different story.
A vegan might in fact really need to eat liver and organs almost every day, possibly even for some years to regenerate their liver and body stores / overall health.
But someone who has routinely ate good amounts of meat for their life, would likely not need to do this or benefit that much from that.
The thing too though is that no two livers will ever be the same in quality or nutritional content, so you can really never know what excessive levels of something you may be getting of something. Every animal will have a completely different lifestyle and history of the nutrition in what it eats, nevertheless, young livers are ALWAYS more desirable, safer and taste much better and come with less risks compared to eating the livers of older animals in any case scenario.
But Hypervitaminosis, is a real possibility.
To be fair, to some credit of what Goatis says about the Vitamins coming from real food, what he says IS SOMEWHAT TRUE but only to a certain degree, in comparison to the Vitamin Supplements which are far more dangerous.
And the reason for that is because even if a Vitamin Supplement is derived from food, the problem with Vitamin Supplements is that most of them are not regulated, and they are processed in a form where they do NOT assimilate in the body in the same way from the Food Sources. This means that they extreme amount may pose a "shock" to the body, whereas the same amount potentially from a food source will have a more mellow or gentle effect in terms of how the body including the liver assimilates and processes the nutrients.
While it also is "true" that the body is equipped and capable to strongly regulate "excess" vitamins or nutrients, the fact is that this is typically the case with people who are young or otherwise healthy, and assuming that their Liver and Kidneys are in top working order.
The regulatory processes that the body use can be strained in an unhealthy or aging individual, and the thing is even in someone healthy, over time, these organs tend to become less efficient or can become exhausted in repeating having to filter and more nutrient excesses.
Anything in excess will still put strain on these organs, so the thing is even if they get away with excess in their "youth", it does not mean at some point that the liver or kidneys will not get tired of excreting them, and the thing is that Liver Enzymes can potentially also reach high levels from overexposure over a long period of time from overdose of certain vitamins.
Overall, it's just not worth it, and there's no point of loading the body up with any excess of what it needs anyway, only for it to have to deal with excreting it.
While occasional bouts of vitamin overload from a natural food source are not likely to be any major concern or making risk of damage, repeated and regular exposure over time certainly can create problems to mount in the future.
With consumption of liver, there is a definite risk over excess from the following nutrients:
Vitamin A
Copper
Iron
Zinc
Niacin
Even some other nutrients that are in excess for a certain animal, could potentially cause an issue at some point down the line, even if at some point there had not been an issue with it.
When it comes to Bear Liver of any species, especially Polar Bears, the amount of Vitamin A in the Polar Bear Livers are ABSOLUTELY of lethal levels, there is absolutely no contesting that. There is no way I would ever chance eating the flesh or organs of any species of Bears.
While Organs are indeed healthy for humans to eat and are a powerhouse of nutrition, they are beneficial to consume here and there, we should never be under the assumption that we have the same level of urgency, need or frequency that other animals such as "Lions", "Cougars" or other animals have for the demand, because they are powerfully built and very fast hunters, and they need the energy and nutrients in the Liver far more than some other animals or even Humans.
That's quite interesting. Someone once mentioned that there's a reason there's hundreds of pounds of muscle meat in a slain animal, and only a pound or more of liver. I believe the main reason people may overconsume liver or organs, is they believe it will make them some kind of God that is rewarded by nature. I know myself, because that would be my main reasoning for intentionally eating lots of organs, especially liver.
ReplyDeleteThe reason I think this way, and perhaps many other people in the sphere do, is because Goatis says muscle meat is slave food, and that while muscle meat can still make you happy, organs are supposed to make you "really" happy. And besides, we're also taught by Goatis that this is what the elites are always eating, tons of organs, and blood. Do they themselves take precautions to this Hypervitaminosis?
Speaking of blood, what is the nutrient profile of blood actually like? Is it potent like liver? Will drinking it make you feel like a "God" or cause you to exude "higher vibrations" or feel a high? And I wonder how much the freshness of blood matters in terms of consumption. See, in Goatis' Blackpill Documentary, there's a kind of obese gothic woman who lives alone and drinks tons of blood through wine glasses. But her's has kind of darkened and look's more like red wine or pomegranate juice, in comparison to the thick, brighter-red, coagulated look that fresh blood has.
Goatis says the elites are the happiest humans alive, so if Hypervitaminosis is an actual real thing and issue, what perhaps have they calculated to be the "perfect" human diet?
@John Eston,
DeleteThere is no doubt that organs and the blood in animals can make you feel unbelievably Euphoric, if it was a very healthy animal and especially a fresh hunt. The problem with most livers is that the ones you get in stores are nowhere near as fresh and also will not always get someone feeling "high" or euphoric. Blood is the "Life Force" so naturally it will make someone feel Euphoric and as if they can conquer.
I'm pretty sure the Elite just eat and drink whatever they want when they want, they listen to their own instincts for when they crave something.
If someone is not in need of so many nutrients, they will not crave liver like crazy, but if they have denied themselves for a long time such as a Vegan would have, or even the iron and nutrient loss a Pregnant mother will have, they will definitely be craving liver.
Generally the body will let someone know if they are eating too much of something by certain body reactions or just a revulsion towards eating something.
For example, I eat somewhat less meat in the summer months and have more fruits. In summer, too much meat and fat is "heavy" on the body and goes against the body's need to maintain optimal temperature.
For the e leats They’re more in tune with their bodies and I’m sure they just eat whatever they feel like. a lot of people crave muscle meat even over organs sometimes, even if the organ quality is amazing
Delete@zikeKEK, Precisely, and that's the key thing people forget. To listen to their body, being in tune with it. One could even reasonably be in optimal health even if they only ever ate muscle meat, particularly certain kinds, or if they threw some Raw Oysters in the mix now and then. Oysters are a fine substitute for organs, because they are a superfood. The main advantage Organs have is that they are just much more efficient of a way to get seriously dense nutrition in smaller amounts of the meat and of all kinds. But it doesn't mean someone can't eat anything they want.
DeleteI think Goatis is just adjusting the "goal posts" with the whole meat thing, because at one point he was promoting the High Meat more, then at other times the Muscle Meat, but if you notice lately it's all on Organ Meats and then relegating Muscle Meat to a "slave food", but eating meat any day is far better than nearly any kind of other food.
Sometimes, even "Fresh Organs" just don't taste too great. Especially if the animal came with too much of one nutrient like maybe too much "Copper", you'll be able to taste it. Even Kidneys can have a tendency to have an Ammonia taste because of the urine. The texture of Organs, also leaves much to be desired compared to the texture of muscle meat.
DeleteIf my health or ability to live were dependent on exclusively eating organ meats, I'll be honest with you, I would have unalived myself a long time ago.
you have to admit that sometimes a nice steak can look even more appealing than liver. But as I mentioned, even if I had fresh caught organs from animals fed only high quality food, I’d still want muscle meat sometimes
Delete@zikeKEK, Exactly. A Ribeye steak any day or beef ribs will absolutely be more appetizing in most cases over actual liver. I also think that the claims about claiming that liver tastes like "chocolate" are great exaggerated copes by people trying to convince themselves that it tastes better than it really does.
DeleteThe problem with liver, is that it's never consistent in quality, texture or taste, like muscle meats usually tend to be. And that can really discourage someone from buying it regularly. The "aftertaste" lingers a lot too, especially the grass-fed kind, I actually have not been a real fan many times of grass-fed beef where the flavor of it comes through too strong even in any cut of meat not just liver. In fact, some of the grass-fed beef also is "too lean" to be sustainable for eating as full meals. That's a whole other issue unto itself too.
The other way I know some of these "carnivores" are full of shit, are the ones who think about eating meat right in the morning. The stomach is not really optimized for eating a large amount of meat for breakfast or might make most people "sluggish", hence why people are said to be under a "fast" and it's referred to "breaking your fast" or "breakfast" when having your first meal of the day.
The stomach acid tends to be lower in the morning, and that's why most people either only look for a small pick me up, maybe a fruit or small carb item, or maybe nothing at all and wait until lunch to eat. Historically, Humans never really ate "breakfast" anyways, it's a relatively new phenomenon, but I laugh at some of these people how they start their day eating a whole lot of meat. It doesn't work for most people in actuality.
all these dieters don’t find it the slightest bit weird that they overcomplicate and think out EVERYTHING and wonder why their diet feels so restrictive. Besides Goatis, the majority of diet review videos make me cringe.
Delete“Dudeeeee you didn’t hit the goal of vitaproteinsodium Az+7 today. Your diet is shit, studies show (I highly doubt they read past the headlines either) that eating _Niche Food_ will give you this nutrient so you MUST eat this or else you have a bad diet and will never be healthy! Now buy my book, course and subscribe and make sure to share it with your friends, family and anybody who might need it and don’t forget to hit that like button!”
I don’t mind a light bit of meat and I don’t mind eggs either (think of the typical bacon and eggs breakfast) but I would certainly wait till the evening before eating any big amount of meat. Who actually wants steak for breakfast over steak in the evening?
Delete@zikeKEK The idea of constantly thinking about if I'm eating optimally drives me nuts. Because I am knowledgeable, I feel guilty about drinking water every time because of Aajonus, and how Goatis says energy drinks are bad even though I like the taste sometimes. Even the act of eating itself is a hassle for me sometimes. I'd rather chug down delicious beverages.
DeleteI’m thinking more so the type and choice of meats and fruits. You still crave energy drinks because they of all the chemicals and crazy addictive shit that’s in it which I and I don’t think anyone else knows the full effects of
DeleteEating definitely does get annoying after awhile, especially as you get older. It's just a constant bother, it's a flaw of this existence. It gets in the way of everything, especially if you are busy or in the middle of a project or just want to relax.
Delete@John Eston,
DeleteThe best way to look at it is this. Because basically, the Raw Carnivore community or even the likes of Aajonus are no different than the Diet Extremists who were pushing against No Fats, No Meats, and only eating Salads and Vegetables and all the other restrictions such as Calorie restrictions, etc.
All types of "dieting" create a form of stress including neurosis in someone to the point where they almost become agitated and even will socially exclude themselves, all to avoid not eating a certain food because the diet prohibits it.
It becomes a form of extremism and only leads to becoming worse.
Truthfully, so long as someone maintains somewhere between 70-90% of their diet with meat, and the rest can be whatever you want including junk foods, it really won't make that much of a difference compared to someone who eats only 100% animal foods and never sways.
The other thing to keep in mind is that if you eliminate certain foods permanently from the diet, eventually your body may lose the correct gut flora to handle digestion of that food, which means you will have digestive issues if you ever consume it again, even if this means an occasionally treat or something you would do socially.
Most people who also do the raw carnivore will also discontinue it sooner or later, and it usually ends up because of lifestyle or other personal reasons, especially if maintaining a ketogenic state, it can actually be problematic depending on your environment or lifestyle in the long run, or sometimes with it getting boring.
The one disadvantage about only eating meat and fat or animal foods, is it will never give you a feeling of being "refreshed" on the palate, it often feels like something is missing if it's the only thing someone ever eats.
We need some amount of water or juice once in a while.
@John Eston,
DeleteEven from the standpoint of what Goatis promotes, while he does drink juice, he would almost prefer to starve or die before ever having a single cookie or slice of pizza ever again in life.
AV said the you can drink maximum 1 oz of liquids per minute otherwise you will pee it out. And that you shouldn't drink more than 1 cup of liquids per day or you will excrete it. I can't definitely do the last thing I find it too restrictive and I wonder how true this is. I will try to not chug liquids and I will see if I see any difference.
DeleteYes I've checked those primal communities in the past and yeah a lot of neurotic people there lol, VERY accurate description. People I wouldn't hang out with even if I did the diet myself, also almost ALL of them believe Goatis is dumb and they unironically think they are better than him when they are the ones who haven't had an original thought in their lives.
Really good point about the flawed design of the human body, PSS...
ReplyDeleteWhich points to why the Demiurge are demonic and a breakaway civilization that is not Source...because they made this flawed design, with the aches and pains and troubles just to eat and live.
There are likely much higher dimensions out there, with benevolent forces...
Which lends me to believe that our goal in this current situation is to bypass the Demiurge thinking aka Jew thinking in this world, now...and then bypass after physical death through knowledge and courage.
@Joey Aragon,
DeleteTrue, actually I wasn't even thinking about that when putting this thread together either at the moment, ironically! But it definitely follows suit.
Because the thing is, part of the way Humans are programmed to think, is that their "body" is a miracle in the way it heals itself, and they cannot imagine "better" systems, or a system whereby you don't get injured or harmed at all and don't need to heal.
This programming is imminent and pervasive, coupled with religious ideas that "God" gave life as a gift and that God loves you and also thought out well how to "design" the Human, this makes people ignore all the bad and focus only on the good.
It still puzzles me for example how majority of Humans do not realize how flawed of a system this is that in order to sustain our own energy, we must steal it from others, even by the means of food. And that things like Sugar or Wheat, have no nutrition for us and will give us bad health, even though from a standpoint of something that would be ideally "superior" and more "just" if it were the case, and there could be made more abundance of plenty of food and satiation if Sugar and Wheat were all we needed to survive.
Better yet, would be if we never needed to eat at all!
I've done a lot of Remote viewing and work with many others in the Metaphysics for a long time and even things to deal with things that have to do with "outside" of this universe, and I am convinced we are all just stuck in a never-ending loop in this place because many cannot possibly perceive what a better existence, true freedom, true free will and evolution would look like.
Most people see a purpose in this place.
It is difficult to "dig in" for so many people, because of the programming we get at a young age...not many...and even smart people here, really understand WTF is going on...
DeleteThe Demiurge is real. They are a big club. Jesus archetype, Lucifer, the gang, all the prophets, the myths, on and on...and they are playing their part to create this world of total garbage, where we have to sweat to have a good life, from getting food, to shelter, to paying tribute to the mob boss (our government), to going to hospitals , where they kill you and take all your money. Money, itself, is the most demonic thing going.
Then we are dealing with the collective consious, the Instagram culture...talk about a god dam mess. Look at porn...it is just awful, fucking up the minds of people with their Autistic cast of retards, having sex on camera like a bunch of animals. Video/TV/VCR/Social Jew Media was easily the worst thing to come into humanity. The Demiurge was really able to get more of its demonic grip on people with these devices. You just have to be smart enough to understand what is happening around you, to beat them.
I am convinced more that ever, that they can be defeated. It takes a lot of self introspection, courage, and effort to beat them at their game...
It comes down to who you surround yourself with, and whose ideas you choose to meditate on...
I always thought this was a great idea:
"If you want to know where you will be in the next 3-5 years, then just look at the people you are interacting with today"...
That is a true statement.
When I was around gamblers, my finances were like a yo yo...and I suffered a bit for that...because gamblers are LOSERS...they don't work hard. So, I cut them out, and now, I am doing much better...
Same with the blacks...I always lived in good areas, usually with less than 10 percent blacks...but now, I live in an area with less than 1 percent, and bang...my life is better...this race just drags me down.
Finally, the Jew. Once I get every Jew friend and possible friend out of my life, my thinking improved greatly. This race is easily the most dangerous one to be around. Get away from them, they are sizing you up all the time, looking to see what they can get from you.
Life is really not complicated if you follow these principles. Another example, is that I NEVER go to bars anymore. Talk about depressing pieces of shit. These are the LOSERS in your hood, the local bar. Don't walk in there, even for lunch. Fuck that....
If you want to have class in your life, you have to be class....be smart about who you hang out with, and learn from people that are respectful and understand the spiritual components in life...
This is why I have come to respect more Catholics now, than ever. Their doctrine is off, of course, and I don't like religion, but the Catholics have a reverence and respect for traditions, and honesty....I don' t think I have ever met a devoted Catholic that didn't have their shit together, that was not a good person to be around...I really can't say that about other races or religions...I am not going to follow their beliefs, but I sure will want Catholics as my friends at the end of the day.
@PSA,
ReplyDeleteDo you think eating the whole raw egg with the whites is alright? Goatis always mentioned the anti-nutrients. While Aajonus says eating the yolk by itself isn't a good idea.
@John Eston,
DeleteYes, it's fine to eat the whole raw egg with the whites, I do when I eat them, so long as you don't get overly excessive with it and try avoid spreading it throughout the day. If you do it once a day, like 4-8 full raw eggs, that should be fine. But too much of the egg white can definitely have an effect over time with the avidin effect.
@PSA You like RedBull right? I've tried it recently for the first time and slowly started to like it especially the fruit flavored kinds. I drink it mostly because of the taste and I find it really refreshing, I don't really feel that much of a energy boost in fact I can drink it before going to bed and it doesn't affect my sleep. Also I'm already pumping cortisol 24/7 so I don't need more "energy" on my body.
ReplyDeleteAnd what surprised me is that RedBull is one of the healthiest choices when it comes to beverages as it doesn't have harmful additives or sugar substitutes. The synthetic vitamins could theoretically cause some problems by I don't think they are that bad.
@nothingiserious,
DeleteYes, I do drink RedBull and other Energy Drinks. I also prefer the fruit flavored special ones they run more so than the Original, which is sometimes too tart.
Definitely is a refreshing drink, being both refreshing and I enjoy having them when listening to music or sunbathing or basically any activity when I want to get a rush.
True, RedBull has a lot less ingredients than many other makes out there.
My body at times seems to get on "right" when having them, much more so for example than alcohol.
Cool. I only drink like two or three cans per week and I enjoy it more when it's a sunny day. Yesterday I saw this other energy drink called Monster which it's popular but I checked the ingredients and it is unhealthier than RedBull.
DeleteAnd I appreciate your advice of not going extreme when it comes to diet, there are things that I simply cannot give up, some food craving may be originated by some nutritional deficiency but there are things that are simply too tasty to give up. And you're right about going animal based being good enough to be healthy unlike the primal dieters who think they are closer to death by eating some cookie or pastries once in a while or more fruit than the recommended portion per day. Also we eat such things sometimes to make us feel better or cope with reality, they probably don't experience energy depletion the same way we do. They are quite lunatic and have to accept that as long as they are living in modern civilization they won't be perfectly healthy as they want to be with their crazy detoxification protocols that restrict their lives (and are expensive af). Goatis can also be restrictive on his diet too but he seems to enjoy the way he eats and his general advice is to eat animal based including raw animal foods and to not base our diet on empty calories or vegetables.
@nothingiserious, Best way to look at it, is that EVERY single food, even the purest cut of raw steak, is going to have some level of toxicity in it to "some" degree, and all food is aging us, no matter how pure, clean or nutritionally beneficial it is. In fact, even Goatis has admitted that a few times in some former videos.
DeleteFood cravings could come from multiple sources, even a favorite pastime or memory, or just to change things up. Sticking on the same exact foods every single day is boring. I've tried it, and eventually it led me to a "stall".
The main thing is that people these days, especially Europeans are largely cutting meat out of their diets altogether, and that's where they are running into trouble.
I suppose if someone goes vegan, the trauma and negative health effects they experience, will make them become ravenous about going all out carnivore.
I really wish the raw primal community wasn't so toxic and retarded, but yeah nearly all my experiences with them is that they are a bunch of "uncouth" and unsophisticated, even "lazy" individuals who are really extremist, even to the point where they want to refuse to even socialize with anyone who doesn't eat 100% animal foods only, or even will go apeshit if someone ever "cooks" their meat.
It's funny how they like to do that, because for starters, most of them don't have any actual friends to begin with, especially in the carnivore lifestyle, and beggars can't be choosers.
Didn't Kevin Samuel drink Red Bulls?
ReplyDeleteI don't hear good things about this drink.
Kevin died of a heart attack, I think. He was an entertaining guy, a trad. cuck. But, he was on the right track and really people these demonic women in their place.
Joey Aragon,
DeleteTrue, but he was drinking a lot of them, sometimes having 2-3 of them within even a couple of hours on some days.
While anything and everything can be bad for you, I definitely don't drink them as much as he did, especially in short windows of time, but even still I'm not really planning to extend my life here anymore.
I have nothing new to look forward too, I feel a lot better when I've got them in me.
I have never tried them...I know that was a popular drink back in the day: Red Bull and Vodka.
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