Proof That These Clowns Are Redefining Goth and Punk Subcultures

https://www.tiktok.com/@perdurabo/video/7435359039497751854?q=conservative%20goths&t=1731850551512

Seriously, we need to create a massive war against these fucking freaks... They think they can "redefine" the Goth and Punk scenes, but do you notice how this loser doesn't even reference the Music first?

Goth and Punk, just like any other Genre, are MUSIC-based subcultures. They aren't about "Ideologies".

Even most early "Punks" were at least Anarchic, rather than Ideological, but this nitwit can't put 2 and 2 together.

What I really hate about how things are nowadays, is that these clowns are Pro-Establishment, when initially the Goth and Punk scenes actually rose up, if anything to be against ideological nonsense and the establishment, and Music was an outlet by the means it was expressed in.

These losers should not even have a platform to promote their nonsense, since they are poseurs and know nothing about what these Scenes were originally about.

Now they've become the biggest conformist fucks on earth, and it really irritates me...

Yeah, I'm a Conservative, but I'm also not a Christian nor am I Pro-Capitalist. There's a difference.

Most Conservatives are also frauds, and they are only Conservative because of their "religion".

But these autistic freaks can't even compute any of that.

I could have more respect for someone who is just a straight out Anarchist, even though it has its own spectrum and there are many Leftists and Communist ones, a plain jane Anarchist or at least someone who is a Political Atheist would be more Punk any day than these asshats who are trying to rewrite the rules to make these original scenes out to be what they "hope" or "want" them to be.

I'm really sick of the fact that the LGBTQ scene and basically all form of Lefist Ideology has become the forefront of these scenes.

You can't be a true Punk or Goth if you are not into the Music, period. That's just a rule, even if one thinks a certain way or dresses the part, and these losers are trying to remake that rule. Same thing with "Metal", if you are not listening to Metal Music, you can't just be a "Metalhead" even if you dress the part with your Battle Jacket, and wearing BAND t-shirts of bands you don't even fucking listen too.

Everything to do with the Punk and Goth scenes really became usurped once "Grunge" got a foothold, and it's interesting to note but Punks and Goths had no issue being racist or proud of being Caucasian back in the day. Although it's not to say there were no Punk or Goth Musicians who were of other ethnicities, the thing is there was at least some integrity to keeping our identities and form of pride. 

Both Goth and Punk Music subcultures are PREDOMINANTLY Caucasian, and always have been. Maybe 5% or less of it has had other Ethnicities that have gotten into the Music Scene.

And I want to explain why that is, outside of the fact that these Music Scenes specifically spawned off from the UK and Germany and other European countries along with the USA...

Generally speaking, Punk and Goth Music styles, are "Western" Forms of Music. While a Non-Western person can potentially listen to, enjoy, embrace or even begin writing and playing Music of this style, it does not necessarily resonate with them compared to their original cultural upbringings, and often times, their own cultural upbringings have Music, Mindsets and Aesthetics that are not necessarily in alignment with or compatible with the Goth Subculture.

There are exceptions to this of course, and yes you will even find legitimate Goth bands in Mexico who are Mexican or maybe Negroes and other peoples, but you have to understand, if they embrace this "Western Music", they are essentially rebeling against the ways of their own people.

Which brings us to the whole point of why these Music Scenes are referred to as "Alternative" in the first place...

The risks are extremely high and more probably for Non-Whites who get involved with the Punk and Goth Scenes to gravitate towards using it as a means of cultural appropriation, and that's exactly what we see has utterly destroyed these Music scenes today.

Hence, we even see Puerto Rican wannabe "Goths" who call themselves "Goths" while listening to Raggaeton.

The Grunge scene which came into place in the 90's was specifically all about "integration" and racial mixing, bluring the lines and also having a Laissez-faire approach to life that really became elemental in that subculture, and it really permanently had a negative effect in the whole Rock Music scene overall, especially once we got into the 2000's.

It is ABSOLUTELY absurd how we are living in these times where these Fucktards are calling themselves "Alternative People" or claiming to be a Goth or Punk, and calling someone "Conservative" a Poseur, all while they are not listening to Goth or Punk Music, but instead you find they listen to Jazz, Hip-Hop, Country Music, and garbage Pop Music shit like Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish or Beyonce.

It was bad enough a while back when we had to deal with the "Metalcore" or "Nu-Metal" infiltrators who wanted to claim they were "Goths", but now this is what we're dealing with in the 2020's...